Nietzsche once said, "If you stare into the abyss long enough, the abyss stares into you." I once thought that faith would be a way for me to finally turn away from the abyss and for the abyss to finally turn away from me. Yet Gandhi's experiences with Christians remind me that what's wrong with a life of faith isn't the act of faith, but having to deal with the people of faith. We are the weakest link in the chain.
Mahatma Gandhi is one of the most respected leaders of modern history. A Hindu, Gandhi nevertheless admired Jesus and often quoted from the Sermon on the Mount. Once when the missionary E. Stanley Jones met with Gandhi he asked him, “Mr. Gandhi, though you quote the words of Christ often, why is that you appear to so adamantly reject becoming his follower?”In visiting a number of blog posts and their accompanying comments over the past several months and particularly in recent weeks, I see an unswerving dedication of the believers making said blogs and comments to following the example and traditions of the Christians who threw Gandhi out of church in South Africa. If someone who doesn't fit the mold or says something that doesn't fit the prevailing theology of the group, they are insulted, belittled, and cast out.
Gandhi replied, “Oh, I don’t reject your Christ. I love your Christ. It’s just that so many of you Christians are so unlike your Christ.”
Apparently Gandhi’s rejection of Christianity grew out of an incident that happened when he was a young man practising law in South Africa. He had become attracted to the Christian faith, had studied the Bible and the teachings of Jesus, and was seriously exploring becoming a Christian. And so he decided to attend a church service. As he came up the steps of the large church where he intended to go, a white South African elder of the church barred his way at the door. “Where do you think you’re going, kaffir?” the man asked Gandhi in a belligerent tone of voice.
Gandhi replied, “I’d like to attend worship here.”
The church elder snarled at him, “There’s no room for kaffirs in this church. Get out of here or I’ll have my assistants throw you down the steps.”
From that moment, Gandhi said, he decided to adopt what good he found in Christianity, but would never again consider becoming a Christian if it meant being part of the church.
How we treat those others tells people MORE about what we believe, and what following Jesus means to us, than all the fine sermons we deliver.
Found at John Mark Ministries
(original source unknown)
I had a somewhat similar (though not as intense) experience in a church I used to attend once I started studying the Old Testament in a new way and started trying to grasp what the Torah must look like from a more Hebraic point of view. I no longer fit the mold and could not be accepted in the group while I asked questions the group wasn't prepared to answer. I did that just a few days ago and drew a lot of comments and conversation.
Don't get me wrong, the conversation is very worthwhile and I think there is much to be learned from such a dialog, but along with the interaction, some people found it necessary to get hot under the collar about the topic.
Why?
Are you so sure that your opinion is the only opinion and that it is the absolutely right opinion? Can you learn from no one else outside of you?
I ask these questions of myself all the time and this blog is the continually developing result of my attempt to answer those questions. Hopefully, my struggles, which are primarily with me, won't eventually degrade into developing and expressing a disdain for others. One of the things I am sure of is that putting people down because they disagree with me isn't the right thing to do:
There are other ways in which we are forbidden to injure another with words. Thus, we are commanded not to slander, gossip, or talebear, as the Torah states, "Do not go around as a gossiper among your people" (Leviticus 19:16). Concerning a slanderer, the Psalmist entreated, "May God cut off all slandering lips, every tongue that speaks distortions" (Psalms 12:4), thereby warning us that this is among the most serious of sins.The Master gave us a new commandment to "love one another" (John 13:34), which I've mentioned before, and I've also said that we don't seem to do a very good job at obeying this commandment. We also know this:
It is likewise forbidden to cause pain, anguish or suffering, or tease another, or embarrass him in any way, as the Torah states, "Do not vex your fellow man, but rather fear your God" (Leviticus 25:17).
It is forbidden to cause dissent and argument, as the Torah states, "Do not be like Korach and his party" (Numbers 17:5) -- who wrought dissent in Israel.
From Respecting God in Speech
Aish.com
But the word love in Torah is primarily an activist commandment: Love your neighbor and the stranger; love God. Even to love God (says Talmud Yoma 26a) means we should behave divinely toward others, “making God beloved, through us.” And Maimonides brought an almost ecological consciousness to loving the One in the Mishneh Torah: “When we study God’s many wondrous works and creations, and thus comprehend God’s infinite wisdom, immediately we love, and praise.” The prophets warn us to pair every prayer with acts of love. As 20th-century Jewish philosopher Martin Buber taught: “Love of the Creator and love of that which God has created, are finally one and the same.”I question my faith a lot and sometimes I wonder, given all of the problems we seem to have with each other, if a life of faith is worth it. Wouldn't I be happier if I just dropped a life that no one seems interested in actually living, and simply devoted myself to things like art, philosophy, literature, and music? Many people find great rewards in those pursuits and they don't hassle each other about it.
Rabbi Fred Scherlinder Dobb
Adat Shalom Reconstructionist Congregation
Bethesda, MD
Found at Moment Magazine
However, there's nothing wrong with God, Christ, and faith. As Gandhi's famous experience points out, there's something wrong with us. We are not being a light to the world (Matthew 5:14) and we are salt that has lost its taste (Matthew 5:13). What good are we if we don't actually live out the teachings of the one we are supposed to revere?
Jesus said, "If you love me, you will keep what I command" (John 14:15), but we don't keep his command to love one another, at least as far as what I can see.
Is there no humility and a desire to reconcile among the disciples of the Jewish Messiah? Is our faith and love that small?
The well-known Torah scholar Hillel (ca. 60 B.C.E.-C.E. ca. 10) famously summed up all of Torah by saying, That which is hateful to you, do not do to your fellow. That is the whole Torah; the rest is the commentary; go and study. (Tractate Shabbat 31a). Yeshua taught, Love your neighbor as yourself (Leviticus 19:18, Matthew 22:39), very much mirroring Hillel, but our actions in the blogosphere prove we don't give much consideration to either Yeshua or Hillel.
I like the text found under the main title at Lev Echad:
Jewish unity is possible - really! It begins with acting decently toward one another, it follows with tolerating others as they pursue lives of goodness; it culminates with many different Jews, but just one heart.Why can't we do that?
The road is long and often, we travel in the dark...
21 comments:
Did you watch Gandhi last night?
Seriously, nice post.
Actually, I've never seen the film Gandhi, though I suppose I should at some point.
Seriously, thanks.
"Wouldn't I be happier if I just dropped a life that no one seems interested in actually living, and simply devoted myself to things like art, philosophy, literature, and music? Many people find great rewards in those pursuits and they don't hassle each other about it."
*Sigh*
I was reflecting on the same sorts of things the other day while driving from a violin honors recital. I thought about the wonder and delight that I took in watching these little humans produce such beautiful music on these simple wooden and stringed instruments. It was truly a worshipful experience, as all the while I was praising G-d for the great abilities and graces that He has chosen to bestow upon such little creatures called humans. So UPLIFTING.
And then I thought about my time of "lurking" in the messianic blogosphere. You know, trying to sort things out and use a sort of combined 'reasoning together' to come to a greater understanding of truth.
Yeah, not so uplifting. And I don't get it. How and why would our Master command us to love one another...if that seemed to be so impossible to do? (Not to mention that so many people saying and doing unloving things would justify their unloving behavior as not really that at all.)
Makes a girl want to pitch the idea of pursuing some more schooling in Jewish/Hebrew/etc....and get an art appreciation degree (is there such a thing?) I might look into that...
I also thought about a lot of the rancor that is out there when I was shoveling out from under a 4 foot snowdrift in my front walkway. I giggled to myself...thinking, "what good is all that theology and philosophizing to me RIGHT NOW?!?". When the rubber really meets the road, I needed someone to come beside me and shovel an unbelievable burden of snow away from my house. I wouldn't care what they believed about DI/OL, BE, or even the deity/divinity/Yeshua-as-G-d issue. What I would know at that moment, is that someone was showing G-d's love and mercy to me in that moment. Shining His light on me in a dark (and cold and backbreaking) time.
Isn't that what the world is full of? Millions of people who are shoveling/carrying heavy loads of all sorts--believers and unbelievers alike--and could use someone to come beside them and offer some help?
That Gandhi story breaks my heart for so many reasons.
You make a very good point, Allison (sorry, but I probably live too far away to pop over and give you a hand with your driveway...otherwise, I'd be glad to do it).
Both the Torah and the Apostolic Scriptures make very specific points about *doing* and not just talking faith (James 2:18 for example), and certainly the Bible doesn't support making "snarky" comments in blog posts and blog post discussions.
The Gandhi story should remind us that there are a lot of people who "lurk" on these blogs. When I review the stats for my blog, I see that I have visitors from all over the world, including the far east. What impression are we making on all of these people, including those who, like Gandhi, are attracted to the Jewish Messiah, but who would never commit to him because of what we say and do here?
The stunning thing is that, when some of these people are confronted with the facts of their behavior, instead of searching themelves, finding areas where they could improve, and repenting of their "snarkiness", they re-double their efforts, justify their actions, and continue to ignore the teachings of the Master.
It makes me dispair at ever being able to find a community of faith which "practices what they preach" once I leave my current situation. It also makes me think of what Jesus said in Luke 18:8: "When the son of man returns will he find faith on the earth?"
I have to believe, for both your situation and my own (we're relocating sometime this year), that the Father will guide us to the place where He wants us; and that that will be a place of sweet fellowship, community and integrity of faith. I have to believe that...I have to believe that...I have to believe that...(repeat)
I appreciate you, this blog and your efforts. Oh, and your offer to shovel if you had been closer. ;)
I pray increasing and abounding love, grace and peace to you and all those who visit here~
Blessings to you and your family as well, Allison. You and your comments are a true joy.
This is completely unrelated, but I just came across a very recent news article about the "black Israelites" in the Bronx. With Messianic Judaism struggling with One Law and Two-House groups, I can only imagine that MJ would have the same struggle with this congregation that mainstream Judaism is having.
Here's the link.
Hey, Iam one of those people lurking about reading your blog. I have reason to believe it's a safe place to interact. Our whole Sunday School lesson was about showing LOVE. God is bringing me to my knees with this. Love the Brothern. The Bible says they will know we are Christians by our LOVE.
It is so wrong to seperate ourselves from each other because we have different theologies. None of us holds absolute truth. We are just people, merely human. God is Love. We were dirty and sinful and so not like him, yet he Loved us in our filth. We diden't share the same theologies yet he loved us. Why can't we love?
Thanks for listening to me James.
Great Blog !!
Great Blog
I'm glad you like the blog post, Anonymous (do you have a name?) and lurkers are certainly welcome to "lurk" and to comment.
I agree that we are all commanded to love one another and that love isn't supposed to be limited to specific groups of believers but should exist between all disciples of the Jewish Messiah everywhere. It's our human frailty that causes us to restrict our love to only those people who are pretty much like us.
Fortunately, God's love is boundless and recognizes no barriers of culture, ethnicity, or theology.
James,
Thank you, my name is Michelle.
Look forward to reading your blog
Thanks, Daryle. I've just read your blog post and commented on it.
To everyone: this topic just won't leave me alone. While studying my daily dose of Talmud (from Friday...I'm a little behind), I discovered a very similar theme. Rather than replicate it here, I used it as the basis of a post on my congregation's blog. If you've got a moment, please give it a read.
In all honesty i don't comprehend the issues at hand in your blog, but i am among other things fascinated by questiness of it all.
Sorry. I should have commented on this before. Can you let me know what issues are difficult to grasp? I suspect it has to do with the matters of dissonance that are occuring within Messianic Judaism, but I've been wrong before.
Let me know what you'd like to understand more clearly and I'll do my best to offer an explanation.
Oops. My bad. I had a feeling I shouldn't have tried to use your "real" name. Apologies.
I can't speak for everyone who may read your comment Kris, but honesty usually works with me.
You are correct that the issues in the Messianic Jewish realm, including all of the "sub-divisions" involved, can be quite complex and it can take months or even years to become familiar with them.
The "ambivalence" involved in Christian/Jewish relationships is close to the heart of many of our debates. While Ephesians 2 and 3 seem to present a way to heal the rift between us, the requirement for many Jews in the Messianic movement to continue to utilize normative Jewish practices and lifestyles is difficult for many Christians to understand. Further, many of the Gentile believers in the Messianic movement struggle with the concept that said-Jewish lifestyle is available for Jews but (depending on who you listen to) not for the Gentiles who worship at the same congregations.
How it will all resolve when the Messiah returns, I have no idea, but in the meantime, we all have viewpoints and opinions and, as I'm sure you can tell, we're not hesitant about expressing ourselves (though sometimes to the detriment of our peers and particularly our "lurking" audience).
My personal understanding (as it exists at this moment) is that many of these "lifestyle markers" are available to non-Jewish members of the Messianic movement on a voluntary basis (whereas Jews are obligated to all of the Torah commandments). This means a non-Jew may, for example, lay tefillin during prayer, but it is not a sin if another non-Jew refrains from doing so.
Naturally, that opinion is controversial, but most of the topics we passionately discuss are controversial by definition.
Feel free to continue following my blog and comment or ask a question whenever something comes up. I believe we need many people to be part of our dialog. The Messianic movement in all of its forms, should not be isolated from the larger body of Christian faith. How can be say we are disciples of the Jewish Messiah if we can't associate and exchange ideas with the full body of believers?
Found a very appropriate quote this morning:
The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but progress. ~Joseph Joubert
>> "It was truly a worshipful experience, as all the while I was praising G-d for the great abilities and graces that He has chosen to bestow upon such little creatures called humans. So UPLIFTING. And then I thought about my time of "lurking" in the messianic blogosphere. You know, trying to sort things out and use a sort of combined 'reasoning together' to come to a greater understanding of truth. Yeah, not so uplifting."
I'm with Allison on this one.
In my weaker moments, I'm tempted to give up all theological debate, and simply settle for worship in the guitar, where I'm uplifted, and completely abandon the blog world.
Then there are times when I think this debate, even though it gets hot, is still important.
Anecdote:
I was browsing some very old pre-internet discussions on the old bulletin board system. Several tech pioneers were arguing about how the internet should be work. How HTML should be formed. How HTTP should work with content negotiation. How browsers should handle X, Y, and Z.
It all looked like mintutia; there was even a big debate over whether images should be <ICON> tags or <IMG> tags! (With a great many arguing vehemently for ICON, since large images should be discouraged!) And sometimes the debates got very heated, even personal.
But now that I look back on that, and see it as a foundation for what we have today -- HTTP + HTML + Javascript, the very building blocks of the internet -- I recognize that all the heated debate was important for the future.
And another observation was that it was impossible for the pioneers to foresee what we have today. They spent way more time on X and Y, when they should have been spending it on Z. But there was no way for them to know that back then.
Likewise, I think we're in the building-block stage now. And it can be depressing and discouraging getting into all these debates, many of which get personal and insulting.
But in the end, when we have something built, we might just look back on all this and understand it was necessary to forge a mature faith on the Jewish Yeshua.
Judah, your comments seem to fit very well with the "Joseph Joubert" quote I had previously posted. Nevertheless, as people of faith and disciples of the Master, I think we can strive to improve how we address other people, especially when we disagree with them.
Part of the quote I placed at the bottom of this blog post (from Lev Echad) says, "tolerating others as they pursue lives of goodness". I'll take it for granted that we're all "pursuing lives of goodness" and thus, we should tolerate each other in our disagreements. Hopefully we can do this with a certain amount of composure and grace, not only for our own sakes, but for the sake of whoever may be silently, invisibly reading what we write.
Yes "birth pangs" are painful, but during the "birth travail", we should continue to try and support each other. Even the Children of Israel were commanded to "love the stranger". As brothers and sisters in the Messiah, how much more should be love each other?
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